up and down the economy. the question really is joe biden to normal folks, who do you trust going forward and who is going to get you out of this? you may make fun of him but he comes out as a fighter. ashley: maybe stick to take other people's speeches, referencing when he plagiarized the uk labor leader speech back in '87. >> i remember that, actually. a problem with him now, my question, talk about how hard-pressed the middle class is no he is right to say that, usually don't you hold the incumbent accountable for the economic woes we are facing? ashley: he blamed the previous president. >> to my point, if the middle class is hurting, i think you hold the incumbent accountable. i don't believe romney has proposed raising taxes on on the middle class, he is raising reckless tax cuts. that i would support. >> the answer, the argument really is who do you trust to make thebetter going forward? it seems the president is winning that argument. ashley: perhaps he has been very successful in business, could be a